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>> my last word, republicans that are, when there was no october surprise because they are going to get one this year. >> i don't have any doubts there will be an october surprise. >> sean: we'll be back tomorrow. >> greta: this is a fox news alert. new evidence that fox news obama administration new the libya attack was an act of terror as it happened. fox news has obtained e-mails that al-qaeda link claimed responsibility for the benghazi as it was ongoing at the consulate. they sent them to the pentagon, white house and c.i.a. and state department. that means hundreds of national security figures received the emits in realtime. john bolton joins us. >> good evening. >> greta: now that the paper trail. there is now proof that the
state department and the white house knew as this was going on that a terrorist group with links to al-qaeda had claimed responsibility, facebook and twitter yet they came out with that ridiculous video story? >> this is no surprise. we know that the security guards at the compound in benghazi were in cellphone contact with the state department in realtime. technology being what it is. they don't send old-fashioned and cables in times of great urgency. they send e-mails. apparently we've got several of them that were widely distributed in the united states government. it's not surprisingly because the people on the ground in benghazi knew the security environment they faced and expected it. they had been cabling back asking for security enhancements. this is playing out of everything they worried about, now as you say, there is a paper trail. it's much harder to sweep away. >> greta: according to what we can piece at 4:05 local time
united states, 10:05 in benghazi cable, u.s. diplomatic mission under attack. what we have been told during that time is that president obama, vice president biden and secretary of defense panetta were in the oval office together. there was a second e-mail at 4:54, third e-mail at 6:07 our time, 12:07 in benghazi and the 12:07 one was update to. they claim responsibility for benghazi attack. that the third e-mail. apparently the facebook and twitter. in the e-mail tracks we have, there is never one, any reference to some videotape or some protest. >> look, it's standard procedure for any diplomatic facility around the world. if there is a demonstration you report it back to washington. it's good method ideology so you
can assess the threat level. there were no cables, no e-mails no nothing that day about demonstrations outside the consulate. with these e-mails show beyond a doubt that the state department was fully possessed of the information in realtime. it leads to the question why the administration asked for c.i.a. assessments. all they this to do is ask the state department. why didn't the c.i.a. ask the state department what was going on. >> greta: this situation according to the e-mail addresses, and by the way, yellow category, do you what that means? >> i don't know what that means. i have not understood the way this played out on september 11th and the day after, is why the entire top levels of administration weren't on red alert over this. i can't speak for what happened inside the obama. any administration i would have
been in, his top advisors would have been on this immediately. >> greta: they actually went out with most ridiculous story. they had on september 16th which was five days after this happened, even though they knew it realtime, they knew it that night as they were watching it terrorist group on their state department website, it has a link to al-qaeda. they knew that night. they send ambassador rice out on sunday the 16th to go all those and lie and make up that story about the video. two days later, david letterman, president pushing the story. there is no place in the information we have so far that -- it's like they made it up. they also don't forget the ad that president obama and secretary of state clinton did that was shown in pakistan about that video. they knew it that night. i don't get it. >> this goes to the question we have discussed. what could the motivation be?
one alternative obviously was considered is the cover-up. these e-mails say to me that if anybody at the white house thought they could cover the story up by referring to the mohammad video, with this documentary evidence in realtime it wasn't just a cover-up. it was an incredibly stupid cover up. this may be further proof ideology explanation, there is a screen over consciousness that prevents them from seeing reality when it is put in front of them. >> greta: i can understand it's uncertain. they don't want the american people to know this specific group claimed responsibility as it happened. it wasn't they didn't know. they actually came up with some lying. >> it's worse than that. if in fact they wanted to buy time, then it was certainly easy enough we're gathering the facts. but they picked a line that was
politically convenient for them, regardless of the evidence, in the teeth of the evidence. fact they pursued up and including the president speaking to the world that the united nations general assembly when there was just precious little to go on really speaks to me of willful blindness. i don't know psychologically how you can interpret it. >> greta: can you interpret any other way than a lie? >> if it is, if it is a cover-up and intentional deception how foolish can you be this is not going to come out at some point. >> greta: why would they come with the video in they could come up with something else, we're not of the group, but why come up with a video? >> i'm probably the person least able to come up with reasons why they think the way they do but
the ideology explanation is most powerful because it explains why they refused repeated requests for security enhancements for embassy before september 11th. they didn't want to acknowledge that al-qaeda was resurging in libya because it under cut the story line on the war on terror is over and al-qaeda is on the run and arab spring has been a success. that led to the denials and request for security en has. that led to the strategy in benghazi and i think that led to this ridiculous story it was caused by some youtube video. >> greta: i think the president should address this nation and sort this thing out. i think he should tell us. i think we deserve that. ambassador, thank you. >> now to the election, 14 days and candidates are hitting the swing states right after taking swings at each other. >> nt end mitt romney was
appealing to those people in america still undecided. people may be weary of war and they want to make sure that mitt romney is some bayonet waving warmonger. >> half the time i didn't know whether governor romney was there to debate barack obama or endorse barack obama. >> i have a message for the governor, governor you can't run from the truth. you can't run from your record. you can't run from your policies. >> by the way, this line about horses and swords, i never did that to community organizer about his experience back in 2008. the point is his ridicule of mitt romney is was unpresidential and frankly in my view unacceptable. >> the truth is that attacks on
me are not an agenda. we have gone through four debates, vice presidential debate and my debate we haven't heard an agenda from the president. that is why his campaign is taking on water and our campaign is going ahead. >> before the debates general impression of romney, he was very stiff and that if he happened to be elected in president it would be a disaster. what you have after the debates, people feel this is qualified man and intelligent man and this is man we don't describe as stiff and totally out of touch. >> president obama has decided that his path to reelection is to distort, distract and see if he can win this election by default. >> if you come down with a case of romnesia, if you can't remember the policies on your
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>> greta: very well. your thoughts about last night's debate? >> watching the debate in realtime, of course, it was a bit frustrating. i guess vicariously answer some of those false charges leveled against him by president obama and romney i think couldn't keep up with all the lies and spin of barack obama. the mocking and the criticism and arrogance, petulant attitude it's so refreshingly that finally american voters can see minus the filter of the main stream media they can hear what mitt romney stands for and have faith that we have a good choice in contrast to the failed administration of barack obama. >> greta: many people in republican party, burning up my e-mail account last night during the debate and also during our
late show. they were complaining that governor romney didn't challenge president obama on the libya situation. it was rather sort of a gentle passing and everybody moved on. your thoughts about that? >> i think now, 24 hours after this debate, now hearing your breaking news about what happened in realtime, the information that was provided to the state department to the white house, via these e-mails on the benghazi attack, i think mitt romney would have a different approach total answers in the debate last night. why is it, it's fox news that has to break this news on september 11th those weeks ago, that our state department did know in realtime, 400 administration officials knew this benghazi attack was a terrorist attack. yet they went out and lied to the american people for weeks on end. now, 300 to 400 people that
received these e-mails in realtime knowing this was an attack, their friends with people in the mainstream media. they party with these people. it's not the mainstream media who is busting the story the truth on this. they protected barack obama and his people in this administration? allowing this lie to perpetuated this attack was due to some benign video that no one really has seen a trailer on youtube. it's ridiculous. >> greta: it was my colleague, chad who is a producer who got these e-mails very late tonight and immediately e-mailed them all of us. chad is the one who got them for us. it is sort of curious that this video story, i hate to be hung up on something. i really don't understand, why didn't he say, we don't know?
why did he try to deflect it? for the life of me, when something like happened on our property at the consulate on september 11th when they were watching it by the drones overhead. they knew the crisis was going on. they come up with this video story. when they knew right then and there in realtime a group they declared terrorists linked to al-qaeda and they talk about this video. >> exactly. keep trying to find what the purpose would be in this cover-up. why the mainstream media in protecting obama would perpetuate this cover-up. it is appalling but it's not surprising. there is no moral compass in this administration. it is a corrupt mainstream media. what breaks my heart about all this. the loss of four brave americans through this tragedy is we have
our sons and daughters overseas fighting for that freedom of the press in america. yet, there is abuse of the freedom of the press where the press gets out there and they are free to the lie to american people about what is going on. in the meantime, we have 6,000 troops to have lost their lives in iraq and afghanistan in these recent years fighting to protect the freedoms here in america. it absolutely breaks my heart. perhaps i'm the wrong person to ask to comment on such a issue. i have loved ones in war zones. i think it's absolutely appalling. this more than anything else in the obama administration that they tried to pull the wool over the american public's eyes trying to pretend trying to pretend something other than the facts show. >> greta: i wish the president would address the nation on this. maybe i have it all wrong.
i don't see it any other way. i hate to think our government lying to us. i can't figure this out. the evidence, i can't set it down. there is an e-mail in realtime. it is what it is. if there is an explanation, i would really like to hear from the president. the president was in the oval office. vice president was there. secretary of defense and they are watching in realtime. they have phone calls. we have four americans that are literally trapped over there and shot to death or burned to death as we are watching. this whole video story is beyond me. >> greta, don't be surprised that this administration is capable of lying. look what barack obama even said last night. tip of the iceberg, the lies he was throwing out. he tried to claim, sequestration was just a proposal. it's a lie. he says it ain't going to happen.
is he going to ignore the constitution and people? >> greta:. >> bob woodward says it was his administration. they are the ones. now, they are trying to push it off on congress. >> and they is barack obama as an individual told the american people last night that it was just a proposal of congress's and it wasn't going to happen. its law. he signed it. he has no respect for the different branches of government as the executive will fulfill the will of the people via congress. last night, one thing after another with the false charges and false claims. romney could not keep up with all the untruths and lies. don't be surprised on this libya attack, too, that things aren't as they appeared. >> greta: governor, thank you.
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>>. now with respect to libya, as i indicated in the last debate. when we received that phone call i immediately made sure that number one, we did everything we could to secure those americans who were still in harm's way. >> greta: but did the president do everything he could? new evidence that the obama administration new the libyan attack was terrorism. fox news obtained internal hamas. showing that al-qaeda linked group claimed responsibility for the attack in benghazi as the assault was ongoing. liz cheney joins us. >> good to be with you. >> greta: they have penned and article and he said that we didn't move fast enough? >> i was really surprised, it's hard for me to be surprised what
i hear president obama say. but to hear him say we did everything immediately to make people secure. what we know from the e-mails you broke a few moments ago, white house was getting reports, white house situation room is getting reports that the embassy and consulate was under attack. you have a group claiming credit for the attack and seven hours they did nothing. we know from testimony from charlene lamb they were following this in real time we know there was a drone overhead and for seven hours they did nothing to move any of the forces we had in italy to help protect our people. >> greta: according to the article in italy, it's about 480 miles from benghazi which is a little an hour flight. we didn't put any planes in the air. we didn't put our special ops in the air. we didn't start moving anything
to the area should we decide to go in there and protect them. >> you've got a situation in the united states where you have obviously this huge news story of the presidential election. there is two weeks now from tonight you are going to be voting and know what the outcome is. at the same time you have a major, major news story of president of the united states not having provided the security that was requested, not responding when the consulate was under attack and frankly lying to the american people for as long as ten days after the attack. i hope that if the media is doing its job tomorrow and white house press briefing president will be asked, what did you do when you learned at 4:00 p.m., at 5:00 p.m. when you were sitting there, why didn't you order any action? why didn't you order our forces to help protect our people? >> greta: it is always easier with 20/20 hindsight.
i'm hesitant to be critical that nothing was done to try to save them. we had seven hours we didn't even move any assets toward benghazi. he writes a story we could have buzzed the area and f-18 and scattered everybody, those planes are so scary when they come over you. it's like we -- no one said let's try something, let's try to help these people. as best i can see, i don't have all the intelligence. i don't have all the information, but it appears that we didn't do anything. >> it is impossible for me to believe that the secretary of defense would not have said to the president here are your options. we need to know, did the president reject those options. i would like to know where the secretary of state was in all of this.
these e-mails were coming into the state department, situation room, these are people that are directly under her responsibility and authority. where was she at 5:00 p.m. on september 11th. what was going on, what did she recommend. >> greta: i would love to know from the secretary of defense why we didn't, if anything was done. were things moved in secret that i don't know about. i can't think of these four sitting in a compound, two we know died of smoke inhalation. i don't know if we could have saved them or not. i don't know how long in the seven hours of hell that went on there. i would like know we tried to save our americans or tried to do something. i will say with some hesitation, it's 20/20 hindsight. >> if you look at west's article president reagan, 90 minutes you
making a decision, order a plane that we new had terrorists on board. that was 90 minutes. this is 7 hours, you've got because you have the drone, you are seeing it in realtime. people are calling, we are under attack. we don't know where the ambassador is. we have been hit with mortars. we can't get to the annex. by the way, the group has claimed credit for this ongoing attack. the president of the united states sat in the oval office and did nothing. >> greta: first e-mail came in at 4:05, another one at 4:54 that was peculiar. it says something diplomatic mission, compound has been cleared. response team is attempting to locate personnel. the other one came at two hours later. >> you know we do know there was a break in the attack. we do know in terms of the
mortar round they took the time to be able to realign and make sure the mortar rounds were directed where they needed to go. some of the very initial information is sometimes wrong. that is absolutely true. i think we need to know exactly what was going on when the second e-mail was sent. having said that, you had seven hours. >> greta: we need to be hear from our government what happened. if they don't tell us, then we imagine things. >> not just from the government but the president of the united states. >> greta: thank you. our political panel, it comes down to the undecided voters. did the final debate push anyone toward a decision. also, now another city could fall in the big apple's footsteps. is it junior city? is it your city? where others fail, droid powers through.
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>>. i know you haven't been in position to executed foreign policy but every time you have offered an opinion you have been wrong. >> greta: 54 million viewers watched the debate. not all made up their minds and the candidates want to dazzle with success. did either succeed? editor rick cline and bureau chief michael crowley and bob kusack. >> i think most people think president obama won but mitt romney got more out the have the
debate. he looked presidential up there. he looked reasonable and responsible and plausible as commander in chief. that he was in command of the facts for most of the night. think. >> commander in chief but romney took a different tone. he applauded him when he gave him where credited is due. as undecided voters he isn't a repeat of the bush years. he seemed like a plausible and commander in chief. >> i agree with lot of what he said. i think it was clear the media consensus was a clear obama win. romney has some goals. look, romney's goal was to go in there an indict obama's foreign policy, tear holes into what he was saying. i don't think he did that. it was sound to sound credible.
i think he did succeed. it was amazing. he wanted to come out and he was going to come out with a john lennon t-shirt. we don't want iraq or entangled in syria. he wanted to pull a george bush halloween mask. it's not the neo cartoon with the ads in the campaign. that romney wanted to stay in iraq or afghanistan. romney did a good job of pushing back on that. >> i do think he looked like a statesman. he landed so many blows. we're not going to remember this debate. we're going remember the first debate, especially if romney wins. he came across as a statesman and might have thrown obama off. i thought it was going to be continuation of the second debate. >> greta: it's unbelievable the people still watching these debates. >> this is a grind and has so
much intensity. there are a lot of people that can be swayed. from this point on, 14 days could decide it. >> greta: what would you say to people undecided at this point? >> i think the classic profile for undecided voter is someone that voted for president obama four years ago and still likes him and believes the promise he represented but doesn't feel like things have moved in the right direction. that has been the hurdle for mitt romney and that is what made the debates so critical. to go toe to toe with the president to look like a possible alternative. they have to close the deal, president obama has to remind them what they felt four years ago. >> ohio? >> as tight as can be right now. they are feeling really good for
romney zblrg. >> greta: they is all say. we're doing great. everybody on both sides. >> but the numbers bear them out. it is getting closer. there is clear momentum on romney's part in ohio. i talked to democrats they feel like the auto bailout and also ohio is economy which is not as bad as national economy. a friend said unemployment out there 7%, most important number in american politics, john kasich is saying things are getting better. that could save obama in ohio and win the election. >> greta: up next, what is spooky for the republicans. no republican nominee has won without winning ohio. and two minutes, is the government going too far? another city may ban sodas. that is two minutes away. be touh ur retirement savings,
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changed the whole debate in ohio. romney gained tremendous momentum. you see great momentum across the state. people are enthusiastic and the polls indicate that republicans are sort more intensely motivated. you keep that up and you search for undecided voters. he needs to be here. the more people see him and more they like him and more they get him. >> reporter: we saw you the rnc and you were talking about the story of ohio. giving folks a chance to rebuild things. you talked about the remarkable turn around from 48th in country for job creation to 4th. how much is a part of that happening with this race? >> well, what i say, we've done better than we had been doing. we were gaining. we are up 112,000 jobs.
people are more and more optimistic about the situation in ohio. i have to constantly worry about this bad news and bad winds that come out of washington. people are paralyzed. small business people don't know what to do. they fear higher taxes. they fear healthcare imposed on them they can't pay for. they are sitting on the sidelines. too many on the sidelines. in that kind of paralysis hurts our ability to come back. that is why i'm for mitt romney. i think he will remove that uncertainty. he will be clear on what he wants to do and do better. at the end of the day, all i care about in this stated who is going to be the best job creator. i don't have any doubt in my mind, romney is the better job creator. part of it he has created jobs. he has been criticized because he worked at a place where they created jobs. if there is anything we need in politics today it's somebody
that understands the problem and has a solution to the problems. the problems are really frankly gets down to one thing and issue of jobs and gets down to who is going to fatten their wallet. if my family is doing better. if my wallet is skin and nothing in hit then my family is hurting. that is what people care about it. >> reporter: critics say it's not so much as governor has done it's about the auto industry and bailout? >> i wouldn't care if they gave credit to the green martian that isn't me. reagan told who gets credited but it's what gets done. the 112,000 jobs that have been created, we're thrilled with the auto industry that it is here.
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>>. >> greta: now on more the breaking news, new evidence that the obama administration new the libya attack was a terrorist attack. an al-qaeda group claimed responsibility. we're back with our political panel. >> i think it's new questions about why there was certainty emanating from susan rice in the aftermath to say it was about video when there was conflicting evidence. it was very confusing at the time. there was a lot of stories filtering in at the time. there were different messages but to have indication in realtime, e-mails going around that claim a terrorist attack, even if you don't know the details. in pretty short order after the fact we heard from the white house and administration in actual assignment of blame on this video. >> i want to know about this you broke this evening. i would like to more context. clearly, something funky is going on with the
administration's position this. susan rice did seem to be operating from c.i.a. talking points and they didn't seem to have the e-mails. it's a little murky to me. i would zoom out and what is the larger point here. i think although there is some reason to think people were not completely straight and disclosing all the information they knew, implication that obama had been soft against al-qaeda is not accurate or fair one. the drone campaign against al-qaeda in pakistan, afghanistan has been effective. >> greta: i think the question is what happened? he is the one that is creating this vacuum. she one who has information that could tell us. he could get on tv and tell us. he is not. we may be getting it wrong. if we're getting it wrong, it is his fault. >> there have been conflicting changing stories here. there is something funky about
it. understand what the coverup would be the political charges, they don't want to admit al-qaeda resurgence. so, to me it's not clear to me. >> this report highlights the fact this group was attacking responsibility on facebook and twitter. no one seems to have said get everybody in the room, state department, white house, c.i.a., what happened? i think it's going to make a great book some day. someone down the line was jumping the gun and making basically making up claims that were not are not true, especially about the video. these e-mails don't mention the video. >> greta: why -- i can't figure it out. president should tell us what happened. why doesn't he say, we don't know. this is an investigation. why didn't you say it's ongoing
investigation. >> he said something to the effect. she said that they were demonstrations. there were no demonstrations in benghazi but they piggy backed demonstrations and it was unclear. she didn't say it was all about the video. >> that is the c.i.a. talking point on it. >> greta: do they issue talking points? >> it does in terms of summarizing the intelligence. but there was so much out there in the early days and now that is conflicting that certainty is puzzling. >> and they can clarify it now as you say. admit if in the fog of the war in tragedy, okay, but what happened? >> greta: if we have it wrong and taking the wrong assumptions i blame the administration. they are the ones that have the information. they are the ones who represent
the american people. they are the ones who creating this problem for themselves. step up to the plate and tell us what happened. from my perspective and i don't like to think the government deliberately lied to me, but i think it would be naive to be extremely suspicious. >> i'm surprised that mitt romney didn't hit it hard last night in the debate. >> greta: now, the media will. coming up last call. one candidate may have to reinflate his campaign in florida literally. find out why, next. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release.
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